Monday, April 16, 2012

A curious Pnova question

What is the highest Pnova damage you can get without Bramble, skill shrine, CtA buff, and all while maintaining 75%@ in hell.

So far I have 14k-15k on my character screen.|||What gear are you using? What level is your poison nova? I'll assume all synergies are maxxed and you're probably wearing Trangs Gloves for the +25%.

According to the Poison Damage Calculator excel sheet, with maxxed synergies and Trangs Gloves, you would need a level 65 poison nova to show 14K-15K damage.

I have some pretty high-end poison gear right now with a level 34 nova, and my LCS only shows around 9K.|||Quote:








According to the Poison Damage Calculator excel sheet, with maxxed synergies and Trangs Gloves, you would need a level 65 poison nova to show 14K-15K damage.




lvl 65 Is that even possible?|||Quote:








What is the highest Pnova damage you can get without Bramble, skill shrine, CtA buff, and all while maintaining 75%@ in hell.

So far I have 14k-15k on my character screen.




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I only have 12-13k WITH bramble(47%).

I think your bluffing....|||3/20/2 Circlet - 2x Facet

3/10 Amulet

Enigma

Arachnid

2x SoJ

Trang Oul Gloves

Deaths Web +2 with Facet

+3 P&B/ 3 Nova/2os Shrunken - 2 Facet

Random boots

Torch, Anni, 9 Skillers, CTA prebuff.

Total: +35 Nova / +50% Damage

According to the calculator(full synergy): 10343 - 10546 + 50% = 15666 average

With Bramble(Same setup): 9843 - 10046 + 100% = 19889 average

That shield is incredibly rare but the numbers should be correct.

Btw, how does a poisonmancer fare in 8 player solo Chaos? Anyone tried? Started to build one but havent really got that far so a bit curious |||I'm using...

2/20@/20%FCR Circ w/ 5/5 facet

2/20@/20%FCR ammy

Enigma

Dweb (perfect) w/ 5/5 facet

+3 Pnb/+3 Pnova necro head w/ 2 5/5 facets (It's magic and took me like 4 months to find)

Arachnid Mesh

SoJ

SoJ

Trang's

Rare boots w/ 30%(or higher) in Fire, Lightning, and Poison res(My Diablo II Comp has been off due to no electricity in my house, I'm at my Aunt's)

Torch, Anni, 9 Skillers

And a bunch of res@ ,fhr, life, mana scs.

and that's w/o my CTA prebuff.

@Equila: It's pretty fast, Venom Lords take 2 hits w/ LR but everything else is 1 hit w/ or w/o it (depending on the enemy) Enigma is a must though... w/o it you can't get past the bugs (unless you use skele magi and infinity merc)

@Ghoulz: I'll post a pic asap if you don't believe me.

And I'm unsure of it's lv but I'm almost positive it is lv 62. Yes, I do have maxed synergies.

EDIT: I never said charms were out of the question :P|||2+2+2+4+6+1+1x2+3+1+9+20= 52 It's kinda impossible to get 65 or even 62. But yea, 14-15k'ish poison nova damage is possible and reachable Though I don't know what the maximum is. You should try playing a bit with editor if you want to know the exact answer|||If you modify the setup in this post (replace Bramble with Enigma armour, remove Battle Command and Skill Shrine) then level 54 Poison Nova with 40 points in synergy skills and +50% Poison Skill Damage displays 15,140-15,445 Poison Damage Over 2 Seconds. Replace Death's Web Unearthed Wand with a Venomous wand (+3 Poison and Bone Spells and +3 PN) socketed with a second perfect Rainbow Facet Jewel (+5% PSD) and level 56 PN with 55% PSD displays 16,420-16,735 Poison Damage Over 2 Seconds.

Resist % could be as follows:


Code:
SOURCE                       FR %   LR %   CR %   PR %   
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10 Shimmering Small Charms 50 50 50 50
Annihilus Small Charm 20 20 20 20
Hellfire Torch Large Charm 20 20 20 20
3 Resistance Scrolls 30 30 30 30
Gloves 30
Rare boots 40 40 40
------------------------------------------------------
TOTAL 160 160 150 160

Switching to Mara's Kaleidoscope Amulet for the loss of one skill level could result in Resist 75%. However, I wouldn't get too hung up on maximising displayed damage: Lower Resist and -% Enemy Poison Resistance aren't taken into account, and -% EPR has a much greater impact on both rate and total poison damage.



For the record, maximum level 59 PN is currently possible with Battle Command and a Skill Shrine.|||It appears that I have miscalculated my skill+'s... oops :P And, you can get 6@ on a sc. so add an extra 10. And, not to be an ***, it said "while maintaining 75%@ in hell" but your setup is quite powerfull. I do realize that -Pr% and LR are VERY important (My LR has 20 hard points in it for an extra like -5% but that's just me being me) But I just wanted to see how far I was compared to "max".

I am going to toy around with a few Poison Setups (Curiosity never killed me, for I am not a cat :P) and I'll see what I like best.

*sighs* I really wish I could use Nergal right now (My lv 91 Poisonmancer) Strongest, Best, and my first Patriarch/Matriarch.

EDIT: Anyone know an efficient summon setup for a Poisonmancer with Bramble(I have a +50% one)? I'm assuming an Infinity Merc/Iron Golem w/ Infinity and mages but I would like your inputs.|||I'm yet to make a 1.13 novamancer, but my 1.11 Full Trang Oul's poisoner was dropping monsters like flies with 34,000 damage novas.



Data from an old analysis I did a few years back:




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Perhaps someone who knows game mechanics better than me can figure this one out.



What would cause more poison nova damage?



1) perfect 50% bramble



or



2) 4 socket armor with 5/5 poison facets.



We all know negative resist items like facets/trang shield, and deathsweb extend duration, so I am guessing that the faceted armor is actually more powerful.



Let's say your gear was like this:



+3 pnb circlet with 2x 5/5 psn facet

perfect death's web with 5/5 psn facet

+3 pnb amulet

Trang's belt

Trang's glove Trang's shield with 5/5 psn facet

2x soj's hellfire torch, anni, +9 pnb gc's

battle command

level 15 lower resist for -60%

level 48 nova max base damage = 7703



so that's like +28 to pnb skills for level 48 nova, +45% to poison damage, -95% to resists from gear, and -60% resists from curse, and duration increased +95%.



With Bramble it would increase poison damage to +95%, so 29291 damage over 3.9 seconds, with 58582 damage to things less than 56% resistant to poison after you curse them. Some less damage to more resistant monsters/players and less to ones whom you broke immunity.



With 4 socketed armor it would go +65%, -115% resists from gear, and duration increased +115%.

So 27326 damage over 4.3 seconds, with 54652 damage to creatures/players with less than 75% resistance to poison after you curse them, with damage lessening somewhat as resists go up.



Nice!



With Full Trang Oul's and not perfect x/-5 facets +deathsweb+1 soj+ 6 skillers+anni + torch I'm getting about 9k displayed with about 17k real over 3.9 seconds, and 34k to creatures less than 60% resistant.



In my calculations it looks like bramble edges out the faceted armor just barely. I'll probably just stick to my full set though because I like the tankness



Also to note that in PvP in hell difficulty, that poison length get extended even further for more damage to players.

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